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XGB: Early Concept ~ Female Characters by filbarlow XGB: Early Concept ~ Female Characters by filbarlow
So, because you asked, here is the first sketch I ever did of Kylie, before she had a name. This was done very early in development long before the show was pitched to a network. Executive Producer Richard Raynis was still in the process of figuring out who he wanted in the team. I intended to throw as many female characters in the mix as early as possible. The first design, in the lineup above, evolved into Lucy, who became Garrett. The third one Richard rejected outright because it looked to close to a family member of his, which creeped him out.

The middle character, the Goth, he liked and wanted to develop some more. It was his decision to make her diminutive, we struggled for a bit over that. Anyway this is how Kylie began, as a part of a character smorgasbord.
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shockomotive Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
I am laughing my ass off at "very troubled". That would have been one awesome character to explore!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2015  Professional Filmographer
Yeah lol I've been going back over some of these rejected character ideas for my new comic 8House: Yorris. So you may see her again.
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DANGERcomics Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool! So this is where Kylie began. Thank you for sharing this with us :)
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Yep, you are welcome! :)
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Razorgeist Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014
Now was a female GB always in the cards or was that something you threw in.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I'm sure that Richard was looking to include a female character on the team, I was just pushing for more than one. One woman on a team had become an animation cliche, we got to break it up with the Godzilla main cast.
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Razorgeist Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
Very cool.   Im reminded of when thye did Justice league and the controversy over the fact that they used Hawkgirl.
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Neville6000 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
In the current comic book, she assembles a new team (one of them is Kylie Griffin) and they fight ghosts. Love your design of Janine with just the brown hair and glasses as in the first movie; everybody makes her look like a sexy lady as seen on the animated series.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Thank you, but my design of Janine has read hair, but I didn't color her back in 1986, I did that recently, so it's the design that was important historically. Only black and white faxes back then.
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Moonlord2084 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
love your style!
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Garvals Featured By Owner May 15, 2013   Digital Artist
Im very glad with the final results actually!
To be honest to me Kylie was one of few 'cartoon girls of 80-90th' that had interesting design and personality at the same time. I love everything about Kylie - from her gloomy backstory, wonderful eyes and rough hair, to her unique orange-ish armour + round ghost trap design!
I remember it was the end of 90th when i was watching this cartoon. A lot of us, teenagers of that period, were very dark (hehe), listening to heavy music and watching 80th horror-movies. So this kind of Kylie was so unusual! "Hey Look! She is just like us!". To me Kylie represents whole spirit of that young late 90th. Also she makes me think of those "Ginger Snaps" - girls that also represent that generation.
(and of course Eduardo too, loved those two characters, i wonder what kind of early concepts he had!)
By the way, im a big fan of both Ghostbuster series. I grew up with both of them and they always inspired me with unique design, stories, characters, music (the music! i still remember Piper's flute and that Irish Leprechaun-dance!) and atmosphere. I just love how Real Ghostbusters were crazy and colorful and Extreme were dark-brown and creepy (like a horror movie that also is a cartoon!)! They are two different parts of the same place somewhere in my heart, haha!
(also sorry for my english, not my language)
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filbarlow Featured By Owner May 17, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Kylie was half my Goth-girl idea and half Richard's small girl in a large uniform concept. My version of Goth is probably different to yours, I saw it develop out of Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Cure when it was more about fashion. Goths got darker and more morbid with each passing decade, now it's an institution with rules, merchandise and... yawn, movies.

Executive Producer Richard Raynis was involved in both versions of Ghostbusters which were exactly ten years apart he's the reason the two shows feel linked.

I need to start posting Ghost designs, I'll try to put something new soon. Unfortunately I don't have time to color them.
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Garvals Featured By Owner May 17, 2013   Digital Artist
Can't wait to see some ghost designs! Would love to see some stars like Leprechaun or those from Deadliners, or even...Fear itself!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Fear itself is coming up soon, just need to get on with it.
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Garvals Featured By Owner May 17, 2013   Digital Artist
im was never goth. It wasn't popular in russia at that period. :) by "dark" i mostly mean simply the life style and interests. Kylie didn't looked too goth to me. She was just interested in weird stuff i was interested too.
It's more like... "heavy music + weird things" kind of subculture...
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I agree, she started Goth and ended up her own person, which works for me :)
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GHENGIZZ Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's a shame because the third one is my favourite.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I had a design with her all suited up lol
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EnriqueGomez Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013
this pint I had kylie interesting program before
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Sorry I don't understand.
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EnriqueGomez Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013
I have bad the translator sorry
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013  Professional Filmographer
It's no problem :)
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EnriqueGomez Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013
ok
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EnriqueGomez Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013
Kylie was so before
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yeah, early Kylie
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EnriqueGomez Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013
interesting
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KnockPainter Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Hah) I always wondered how this process begins))
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yeah a lot of ideas get thrown out.
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KnockPainter Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Oh god... so much work... How much time it usually takes to make a final concept (with colours and such)?
For example this one?
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
These were done really fast with a brush pen, we're talking seconds here. I would pump out designs so that Richard had a range of characters to choose from, he would look at new designs that I faxed and we'd talk over the phone about where to go from there. When Richard needed me to design a show I often had mere days to get the pitch art together because of an upcoming meeting.
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nighte-studios Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Started with that lovely hair and make up. It's always neat to see how things evovle into what they are presently. Thanks for sharing!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yeah it takes a while until the ensemble cast comes into focus, but I rarely had that long to figure it out.
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TSG-Arakara Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, even then, Kylie was looking a lot more cool than the other two. Don't know if it's the black hair or the eyes, though. You gave her very cool looking eyes.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yeah these were done really fast to use as talking points, so nothing too refined at this point.
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sanshugroove Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013
Thank you posting this, it's an education learning about the making of the show from you.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I'm happy to know that it's interesting.
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revereche Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is cool. From all this the executive producer sounds dishearteningly sexist, though =(
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
He would never have seen himself that way, but everyone has their blind spots. I create archetypes and in Hollywood I had a lot of bosses all of whom expected me to manifest their psyches into the main cast. You learn a lot about people when you have to turn their subconscious into characters. Needless to say I threw a lot of female characters at him hoping for at least 2 in the line-up, preferably a strong female, for once.
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revereche Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Huh. That's pretty interesting. You should post something about that sometime =)
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I'm sort of talking around it, but yes we'll get to all that. Currently I'm still testing the water, I don't think DA is the right medium for such insights though.
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revereche Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heh, I wouldn't name names >__>
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Haha, best not to.
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avancna Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I just love watching the evolution of characters.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I'm glad you do :)
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avancna Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's like Christmas in July, or a complete set of fish fossils.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I can't get the image of fish bone cutlery out of my head now.
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avancna Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Excellent!
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Razorgeist Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013
Interesting....and to think they're using her in the comics now.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Yeah, it's funny working at my end of these shows. Everything is so cast in iron now, but I remember when it was just a vague elusive wisp of an idea.
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Skypher Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is so crazy... to me. Very cool. Thanks.
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