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Godzilla by filbarlow Godzilla by filbarlow
Here is a poster I did to promote the Animated Godzilla TV show. It was printed in a Fox magazine if my memory serves. Once the Execs had approved the style of the humans, Tom Perkins took over the Character Design so I could focus on the monsters. Again the Executive Producer who put the concept together was Richard Raynis.
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legendfromthedeep Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2014  Student General Artist
Oh hey, it's that Nessie-whale-skull-thing! Loved that thing, forget what it's called.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Lotan? From Moby Ghost? It was episode #124 in production.
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Pappasaurus Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Awesome animated design, but I have them on the 1998 movie and the animated series on dvd and now I am a godzilla fan.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Thank you, I'm glad that you liked it :)
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Pappasaurus Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
You're welcome.
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Khialat Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014
A great display of the brilliant work you did on this show! :thumbsup:

I'm sorry you get so much uncalled-for grief over the whole Godzilla/"Zilla" thing. I hate it when people go on about this "name change". I refuse to apply it to either the cartoon or the 1998 film, for the following reasons:

- The film - and now the complete cartoon series - are still sold on DVD as "Godzilla", and the creature is still called that by the characters. I personally think it should be quite clear that their story exists in an entirely different continuity from Toho's films. I have the novelisation of the film, where it is stated that in this version, "Gojira" is originally a sea monster of Japanese myth which the sailor mistakes our mutant iguana for, and Charles Caiman later mispronounces it as "Godzilla" and the name sticks. Plus, if they were in the same continuity, wouldn't characters be comparing the situation to endless similar ones seen in Japan?!? No, this is a different world, with different events, different rules and a different Godzilla (though, of course, with some details paying homage to what came before).

- Toho fully endorsed the 1998 film while it was in production; it was only after the purists reacted negatively that they added "Zilla" into their continuity and showed it being easily killed by the Toho version. I think they were trying to calm all the angry fans down, but clearly this did NOT work; the purists still behave the same way wherever they find it, whining and throwing insults and treating Emmerich and Devlin like demons or something. Personally, I'm not impressed by what Toho or the haters have done and continue to do.

- Purists may complain about "taking the 'God' out of Godzilla" - but the whole "God" thing was originally pure coincidence. When the 1954 "Gojira" was Americanized as "Godzilla, King of the Monsters", they just wanted a name that echoed the original, but didn't sound exclusively Japanese. It was the fandom that started saying the "God" part was literal. It's true that in the recent 2014 version the characters do call the film's Godzilla a "god" - but then, haven't human beings called a lot of things "gods" throughout history, especially what they fear or can't fully understand? Call me judgmental, but I feel the whole "literal god" thing borders on religious fanaticism - which disturbs me. I want to enjoy a character without feeling pressured to worship them.

- As a kid, I enjoyed both the film and the animated series just fine when they were released, and still appreciate them today (but that's just a personal reason :blush:)

In conclusion, I think the name "Zilla" should apply ONLY when it shares the same universe as Toho's original Godzilla, and then purely for the sake of avoiding confusion. The monster in the 1998 film - and the animated series you worked on - is Godzilla (at least, a version of him) and should be recognized as such!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Yep I'm with you, unfortunately it's Toho's fault. Toho are responsible for backing away from the Sony version and renaming it. I honestly don't care, I worked on a show called Godzilla and that's the truth, I won't be rewriting my own history. All the justifications that have come afterwards are pointless to me, it's just a fantasy character, not a real thing, and certainly not a god, it's all made up. There was never any conversation about Godzilla's "godhood" when I was working on the show.

My understanding was that the original 1954 film makers where trying to say "Gorilla" and ended up with whatever, it doesn't matter, they were trying to knockoff King Kong anyway. It's all so blah. Toho will just redesign history as they see fit and the "fans" will support their justifications. Honestly I find the repositioning kinda gutless, they agreed to work with Sony, approved the design, script, film and TV show, so stick with that decision, yeah it happened, support it!

Have a look here for more information about the official Toho name change: godzilla.wikia.com/wiki/The_Zi…
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Khialat Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014
I'm sorry, but reading that article in the link made me SO angry. Perhaps I'm being dramatic, but it feels like Toho "betrayed" Sony purely for the sake of pleasing their crowds of rabid animals fans. They act as if NO ONE feels the way I feel. They just don't care. Original creators or not, their attitude is, IMHO, appalling - as is seeing people cheer them on. People should be condemning such behaviour from corporations, not endorsing it.

And I was surprised by how Patrick Tatopoulos had no problem with how they treated his design in that "Final Wars" film; I would have been livid if I were in his shoes!

To add insult to injury, a certain group of commenters on the page have made nasty comments about a certain :iconturokswe: - I only know him by his dArt account, but he happened to be one of the VERY few people I've found here willing to see my point of view (that group includes you, of course ;)). I once had a conversation with him, and he seemed very understanding and polite. It makes me sad to see such a person being called a "troll" and a "liar". I once had the misfortune of receiving comments from one of these people - :iconawesomeness360: - about my own Godzilla art. He actually accused me of disrespecting those who suffered in the WWII Japan bombings. I soon blocked him, of course. That experience made me more disappointed than ever with purists. They just won't let anyone else enjoy things except in a certain way; it really ruins it for me.

Sorry if I'm wasting your time with all this talk. I've just had feelings like these ever since I found out what Toho did, and all the buzz surrounding the new film version brought it crashing down on me all over again. I haven't been a happy bunny about it at all :(
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I hear you, and I am interested in talking openly with any one.
You aren't wasting my time any more than I'm wasting yours :)
I've said my piece on Toho in the above comment and have nothing further to add, but you obviously got my drift.

I've had a long think myself and here is where I have arrived:
A company CAN change the logic of their property's universe as much as they like, not a problem.
A company (and the fans who subscribe to the company line) have NO right to change MY history, the reality that I actually lived.
The character that I worked on was Godzilla, Toho approved, end of story.

From my position, this late in my life, the thing that I have been most wary of is peer groups. I dislike them, the ONLY reason that I am where I am as an artist is because I've never followed them, never subscribed to them. As a youth, while other kids my age were smoking, drinking, taking drugs and screwing each other I was drawing, working hard because I knew it would pay off later on, and it did. At the same time I don't look for a fight, I let them do what they have to do, say what they have to say. As long as no one tries to stop me from doing my job everything is fine.

One thing that you will see, as time goes on, is that each generation rewrites history to fit their expectations, in time this will all be rewritten again, and all you'll be able to do is roll your eyes and restate your position. It doesn't really matter though, they won't be listening. Their peers have their ears.
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Khialat Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014
Well, I just hope one day people drop this whole "worthy of the name Godzilla" thing :shrug:
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I agree :/
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JasonVoorheesfurry Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014
Even today I miss this show, when I ever I feel nostalgic and want to rewatch I'll look it up somewhere on the internet and watch several episodes.  Everything about the show, to me, was perfect, from the human characters to the monster designs and Godzilla himself. (I will never call him Zilla, maybe the movie one but not the cartoon)

I always wondered what might happen if some producer somewhere takes an interest in the design and tries to do another movie based of the cartoon, or a video game, that'd be cool.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Professional Filmographer
The "Zilla" thing is silly, nickname, sure fine, but rewriting history and permanently erasing this version as Godzilla, wrong.
Toho was all behind it, and Godzilla was it's official name, deal with the facts people. Never be intimidated out of calling this show by it's actual title.


Yeah it was Richard Raynis who was the genius behind this show, I was just following what he and Centropolis wanted, while being faithful to Patrick Tatopoulos' design. Sure I came up with the style and design of the main characters, along with the monsters, but the vision was theirs.
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JasonVoorheesfurry Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
It was a great vision as well.

The way I see it this Godzilla and the Japanese Godzilla needed to stay seperate. In seperate realities where they could reign as King.

The Japanese is the powerhouse, nigh indestructable, God.

The America was a big physically power lizard, it could get hurt, poisoned, it could die, it did die in one alternate future, I forget the episode, but most of HEAT went into the future.  It builds drama for the creature in terms of it's a God only in terms of it's size.

Some people have to realise I think and I think Toho needs to remember. "Godzilla" isn't actually the Japanese creatures name, it's Gojira, Gojira doesn't translate into God, it's like Gorilla whale or something :I 'Godzilla' is the American invention.

I looked at some of your earlier design for the Heat crew, and while I liked your design I'm happy with how they turned out, though Nick with glasses would have been cool if he put them on every now and then for reading :-)

Ah well.  :I We can always hope the series gets picked up again or something new becomes of this Godzilla.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I like your suggestions, I find it amusing to consider that this might be the real "Godzilla" as you suggest, and the traditional suit version is "Gojira" :XD:

When all is said and done, I very happy with this style, it suited Richard and Centropolis' vision best. However there is something in the "Milton Caniff" style that would work for some other show. We will never know, it's all in the past.

I just like to show how things could have gone had circumstances been different. I haven't shown you guys the 1st style I did which was closer to XGB. Hmm, one day I'll dig that stuff out.
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JasonVoorheesfurry Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014
It'd be very interesting to see. :-)  I hope to see it one day.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2014  Professional Filmographer
One day for sure! Maybe in a year ... so busy
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JasonVoorheesfurry Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
:3 There's no rush.
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Rammsteinfan1994 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014
Loved this show
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I'm glad you did :)
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Rammsteinfan1994 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014
They should bring it back
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Yeah they should.
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Rammsteinfan1994 Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014
:)
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Sand-Rae Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I loooooved the monster designs! :D
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filbarlow Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Thanks for letting me know! :D
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EdwardDelandreArt Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This show was a big part in my childhood. Thank you so much.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Professional Filmographer
You are welcome :)
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WeirdPaperBag Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
Zilla

Ripping off Godzilla Since 1998.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Toho approved my design, so I wouldn't exactly call it ripping off, they made money off their franchise through everything Sony did.
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WeirdPaperBag Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014
Still he should never be called Godzilla.

EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Professional Filmographer
What? You want to rewrite history? Zilla never existed as a name when the show was released. History predates you my friend, read the title of the show! It is and always will be... Godzilla, you'll just have to live with it. Sorry.
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WeirdPaperBag Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
Still.

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austintrench Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
sorry you guys were disliked so much in the godzi- I mean zilla community, you helped make Godzilla better than the movie
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Luckily our ignorance of a zilla community protected us from any dislike. Honestly I wouldn't care anyway. Having an opinion about a project after the work is done is such a waste of effort. We did the best job we could do with a failed Sony property, we weren't interested in linking our show with anything Toho had done in the past because the Sony movie gave us a clean slate to make our own version. However, had my brief been to base my designs SOLELY on the original Toho franchise I would have been intimately faithful to the original monsters. I promise you that I would have used photos of the original suits and improved their anatomy so that they looked like believable creatures.

After all the secrecy, seeing the movie was a big let down. I respected all of the work that went into the film but didn't like the end result. Sony outright rejected the property when it failed to meet their box office expectations. Richard Raynis was the only Exec brave enough to see the property's potential, and hone it into a kid's TV show.
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Sniper0092 Featured By Owner May 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Have you thought about bringing the show back? Since it was cancelled? I miss it...
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I wish I had that much authority, it's up to Sony and Toho. ;_;
It wasn't cancelled, we were only meant to do 40 episodes, it could have been picked up for a further block of 40, but they had all the episodes that they needed for syndication.
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Sniper0092 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Mmm.. Have they ever considered...Giving Zilla his own movie? A way to introduce younger kaiju fans to him?
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Umm... you have seen the 1998 movie right?
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Sniper0092 Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
A move following the series, a continuation.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Oh I see, yeah it would have been nice. Unfortunately the Sony movie bombed so badly they never had the courage to pick it up for a remake.
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280077s Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I'm sorry the 1998 movie and series gets so much hate. If it makes you feel any better, I will always love the 1998 movie ( I still have it on VHS) and the series. I love all variations of Godzilla.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I haven't seen the movie since it was first released I would like to take a look again and get a fresh perspective on it.
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280077s Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Do you mind if I tell you why I like the 1998 movie and your series so much?

True, they are part of my childhood, and will always hold a place in my heart for that, but now, looking back on them as an adult, I can appreciate the subtleties of Godzilla's design. The origin of him being from a mutated iguana egg adds a realistic origin point, while the fact that the creature was just trying to find food and make a a nest makes the creature more animal-like ( as it IS an animal) and not just some mindless killing machine. Also, I love that it had a relationship with Nick, it makes it more endearing and more of a sympathetic character, so I was sad when he got killed in the end. Lastly, the series expanded on the human and animal relationship established in the film, and made Godzilla a good guy.

I want you to know that I truly appreciate your work for the film and the series, as an an artist myself and a friend of your work. I want you to know that of all the fanatics of the series, someone (namely me) appreciated your work and didn't just go fanboy over it because it was part of my childhood, Godzilla 1998 goes deeper than that for me. Other than that, I must admit I feel bad that even you were disappointed by the film, I kind of wish you could see what I see in it. Oh well. Thanks for your work, friend.
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014  Professional Filmographer
I agree with you on all points. It's always worth exploring deeper concepts and I know that Richard Raynis, Executive Producer on the series, saw the story potential of making Godzilla more like a giant pet. Richard was always looking for solid character motivation, and this relationship between man and gigantic beast was the backbone of the series.

There are a number of reasons for my disappointment in the film. Age had something to do with it, don't  forget I was in my mid 30's when I saw it. At the time I used to say that if I saw the movie as a kid it would have blown my mind. The choice of actors was another reason, Matthew Broderick is an amazing actor in the right roles, but carrying a blockbuster film like this, he simply lacked the presence needed. I wasn't getting much from Maria Pitillo's performance either. Lastly we were in the middle of Sony paranoia where Execs had been running around catering to Centropolis' every whim while holding us to ridiculous levels of security for a year. During which time the studio had been touting the film, claiming that it was going to be bigger than Independence Day and Shrek. So much money was poured into marketing, and when the movie didn't make it's targets, those same Execs distanced themselves from Centropolis. Sony stopped supporting our production once the movie flopped. It wasn't a bad film, it was just more lack luster than the hype. Our staff saw the film in a cinema on the Sony lot and many of my colleagues ragged horribly on the film, I thought it was okay, I was just glad I didn't pay for it.

The kings had fallen from their lofty thrones, and our production just kept toiling quietly away. There was nothing wrong with the franchise, just their execution of it.

But please remember these are personal opinions, it's all subjective. I was inside the machine, you were outside, we were at different stages in our lives, so of course it will appear different to each of us. I completely respect the fact that you had a positive experience that meant so much to you. That is good, it means we did our job. Inspiring people is a good thing and I love to do it.

I do intend to see the movie again now that so much time has passed and I'm free of the Sony politics. Your encouragement will probably make this happen sooner rather than later. The movie still evokes painful memories from that time, but I will rise above it and will keep your thoughts in mind.

Maybe when you are 35 years old, watch it again, I'd be interested to know your thoughts.
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280077s Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks for being so kind and for such great work, and for the replies. I will most definitely watch the 1998 film in the future, I still have it on VHS, and I intend to take full advantage of that. I'm really humbled to have gotten to talk with you, even if it isn't in person. I hope we can continue to be friends in art as fellow artists should be. Message me anytime, about anything. 
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Professional Filmographer
Much appreciated :)
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austintrench Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
to be honest your show was ten times better then the movie, maybe because you had talented writers haha. you made original monsters some I named rebiollante and neomothra larva. you made tv safe and cool for kids like me my friend. I aspire to have the guts you guys had8i want to make a gamera tv show* you had imagination to challenge animation and design. you guys made Disney look like street trash. look I know it was for a descent paycheck you did this show, but to me it showed people with the courage to make art and entertainment something again and its a shame you guys were extinguished in your prime and so was the many products I waited for but never came. you as a designer must understand it has meaning to children who grew up with what you did like how yu mustve grown up with Disney or harry housand. you made art with Godzilla I call the animated zlla Godzilla since to be honest hanna barabara was too cheesey for me. the monster you made had a personality and could generate emotions. you didn't make Godzilla a vengeful force, you made him into a hero that was in what I call the tarzan effect when a creature is raised by another genus. you made astonishing progress with you work and well im glad to chat with the bloke who helped bring my cartoon hero to life and it was a darn shame you guys were cut short because of a bad film. you guys count as the Godzilla fans as well ass the regulars filbarlow. your work inspired me *im not a fanboy just a nice guy* you made Godzilla loveable again you and Richard raynis
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filbarlow Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Thank you for your kind words, I have only ever done my best, and glad to know that it had such a positive effect on so many young people.

You'd be surprised how limited my TV viewing was growing up in the 60s and 70s, my parents were strict about allowing me to watch too much commercial TV. What little I saw was at friends houses and I remember being disappointed with the "monster" payoffs, when and if they appeared for a few seconds. As I've mentioned somewhere else I was never allowed to watch Godzilla, (but I was allowed to watch Dr.Who) so I've never seen a full movie. The only Disney film that I enjoyed as a kid was Fantasia.

It is a shame that the Columbia-Tristar studio lasted such a short time, Sony closed it's TV division and with it our animation department (which was under the Childrens section of the TV division). We were in no way celebrated, my group took the studios financial embarrassments, Godzilla and Starship Troopers and turned them into shows that had the potential to earn all of their money back. However marketing didn't support us, we had to petition them to bring out the first DVD of SST.

At the time the Marketing Department were seen as geniuses, because they brought money in and TV Department was seen as a problem because productions cost money. No one seemed to comprehend that Marketing is useless without product. Nevertheless the TV departments were killed and Marketing was rewarded and it's leaders promoted. Go figure.

It was a horribly political environment, but I and my crew soldiered on, dedicated to doing our best work. In my opinion Richard Raynis is the soul within each show, I just helped him realize his vision. I just drew Godzilla's appearance, Richard gave him a personality, the rest of the crew, the writers, storyboard artists, directors, timers and the Korean animators, brought him to life.

I was often morally torn with the directions that Richard wanted to take the shows, but once I knew that he couldn't be swayed, I would devote myself to the task. I've only ever wanted to foster creativity and share my respect for the intelligent design in nature so I struggled with the wanton killing animals, monsters, even bugs. I'm a devout pacifist and I troubled over the military bias of Starship Troopers so close to the Columbine High School massacre. Even working on Ghostbusters was a moral dilemma for me, back in Australia I had cleared houses of their hauntings by helping souls trapped as ghosts move on. However I did the job that Richard required of me, not simply for money, not even for the audience (back then I didn't know you were there, and by the time you saw it I was on another show or laid off), I did it for the hope that one day I might be able to turn my personal projects into shows as Richard promised me back in 1986.

That never came to pass, but I will continue to build on the invaluable experience of having worked on over 250 episodes of TV animation. I will create the show myself and complete what I was put on this earth to do. As far as I'm concerned, my best is yet to come. :)
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austintrench Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks fil.
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artdog22 Featured By Owner May 13, 2013
Ah, Godzilla the series. Favorite show when I was a kid. I miss these kind of cartoons. Great Poster you did. Looks epic.
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